1 00:00:01,501 --> 00:00:03,628 I finally felt that we had our dream house. 2 00:00:03,712 --> 00:00:06,881 But what I'd really bought was a gateway to the paranormal. 3 00:00:09,175 --> 00:00:11,845 When I was 12, my family moved to a brand-new house. 4 00:00:11,970 --> 00:00:13,471 This something paranormal 5 00:00:13,555 --> 00:00:16,349 that is trying to intimidate, trying to scare 6 00:00:16,474 --> 00:00:17,684 these two children. 7 00:00:17,767 --> 00:00:19,060 I knew I was in danger. 8 00:00:19,185 --> 00:00:22,147 The fact that you have pieces of furniture that are being 9 00:00:22,230 --> 00:00:24,441 flung in the air, you know, very aggressively 10 00:00:24,524 --> 00:00:26,901 trying to provoke or inflict pain. 11 00:00:27,027 --> 00:00:28,194 When I review a case, 12 00:00:28,319 --> 00:00:30,864 I always look at the credibility of the witness. 13 00:00:30,989 --> 00:00:32,532 I'm laying down in bed 14 00:00:32,657 --> 00:00:34,659 and just feel it was just staring at me. 15 00:00:34,743 --> 00:00:36,369 I didn't know what he said. I didn't hear the word, 16 00:00:36,494 --> 00:00:37,495 but it scared me. 17 00:00:37,579 --> 00:00:38,955 Something's not right here. 18 00:00:39,039 --> 00:00:41,416 A lot of people felt unsafe. 19 00:00:41,541 --> 00:00:45,628 This is my daughter. You don't tell me to stay away! 20 00:00:45,712 --> 00:00:47,380 What the hell does it want? 21 00:00:47,505 --> 00:00:51,634 In the afterlife, he is quite probably trying to seek revenge 22 00:00:51,718 --> 00:00:52,719 for what they had done. 23 00:01:38,098 --> 00:01:39,265 When I was looking for a house, 24 00:01:39,349 --> 00:01:40,475 I wanted something in the country 25 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:41,851 with a bit of land. 26 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,481 So when I saw this house, I fell in love with it. 27 00:01:48,775 --> 00:01:51,611 Erin Goodpipe. Take one, mark. 28 00:01:51,736 --> 00:01:55,740 As an Investigator going into a case like Lori Kinrade's, 29 00:01:55,824 --> 00:01:58,785 you want to establish a few things. 30 00:01:58,868 --> 00:02:00,286 Can we first rule out 31 00:02:00,411 --> 00:02:03,123 non-paranormal occurrences happening? 32 00:02:03,248 --> 00:02:07,085 The second is, if there are a number of things occurring 33 00:02:07,168 --> 00:02:08,378 that seem paranormal, 34 00:02:08,461 --> 00:02:10,713 we wanna figure out what that motive is 35 00:02:10,797 --> 00:02:12,132 and who is doing it. 36 00:02:15,468 --> 00:02:18,596 We had been married for seven years, 37 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,516 and we found this home that we fell in love with, 38 00:02:21,641 --> 00:02:23,810 and the price was right. 39 00:02:23,893 --> 00:02:25,895 I saw it as a fresh start for us 40 00:02:25,979 --> 00:02:28,606 and a safe place to raise Bri-Anne. 41 00:02:28,690 --> 00:02:31,776 I finally felt that we had our dream house. 42 00:02:35,780 --> 00:02:37,949 But what I'd really bought was a gateway... 43 00:02:42,453 --> 00:02:43,454 ...to the paranormal. 44 00:02:49,460 --> 00:02:50,628 My husband and I met 45 00:02:50,712 --> 00:02:53,548 when I moved to the city for college. 46 00:02:53,673 --> 00:02:56,134 We ended up in the same rooming house. 47 00:02:56,217 --> 00:02:59,345 Everything seemed wonderful at first. 48 00:02:59,470 --> 00:03:03,892 I-- our bond just grew inseparable. 49 00:03:04,017 --> 00:03:06,227 And we became a couple pretty quickly. 50 00:03:07,854 --> 00:03:09,981 With my husband, when things were good, 51 00:03:10,064 --> 00:03:12,525 there was a lot of laughter, a lot of fun. 52 00:03:12,609 --> 00:03:15,737 But when things were bad, they were extremely bad. 53 00:03:15,862 --> 00:03:18,323 He could just go off with the flip of a switch. 54 00:03:18,406 --> 00:03:19,365 We used to always say, 55 00:03:19,490 --> 00:03:20,533 we'd have to look in his eyes 56 00:03:20,658 --> 00:03:21,701 to see who was there. 57 00:03:23,244 --> 00:03:26,664 All I could hope was moving to this new house would change 58 00:03:26,748 --> 00:03:28,625 Freddy somehow, and we needed that. 59 00:03:30,376 --> 00:03:33,713 I kept hoping for the best, but often getting the worst. 60 00:03:37,091 --> 00:03:38,927 It started from the very beginning 61 00:03:39,052 --> 00:03:41,304 on moving-in day. 62 00:03:49,395 --> 00:03:52,440 I was two and a half years old when we moved into this house. 63 00:03:52,565 --> 00:03:55,109 I remember things being less than great 64 00:03:55,235 --> 00:03:57,153 between my parents from a very young age. 65 00:04:00,406 --> 00:04:04,369 At his worst, my dad was scary. 66 00:04:04,452 --> 00:04:07,538 I just remember being very scared of him 67 00:04:07,622 --> 00:04:08,998 when I was little. 68 00:04:09,082 --> 00:04:11,918 Hey! What a freaking mess! 69 00:04:13,753 --> 00:04:15,255 It was extreme anger. 70 00:04:15,380 --> 00:04:18,049 And the thing is, he could be sitting beside you and talking 71 00:04:18,132 --> 00:04:20,093 one minute, and everything was fine. 72 00:04:25,139 --> 00:04:26,599 You hear me? I'm talking to you. 73 00:04:26,683 --> 00:04:27,684 You hear what I said? 74 00:04:30,561 --> 00:04:33,314 You pathetic woman. 75 00:04:36,609 --> 00:04:39,028 Partly, I was hoping that maybe having our own place, 76 00:04:39,112 --> 00:04:43,324 that that might help, but it didn't change anything. 77 00:04:43,449 --> 00:04:46,202 And then he just seemed to get more obsessive. 78 00:04:46,286 --> 00:04:47,287 I knew something wasn't right. 79 00:04:56,254 --> 00:04:57,755 When I was growing up in this house, 80 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,300 I heard a lot of strange voices. 81 00:05:03,177 --> 00:05:04,971 Why are they here? 82 00:05:11,269 --> 00:05:13,271 This is my house. 83 00:05:22,280 --> 00:05:24,157 It was right about here, 84 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,535 I heard women's voices shattering away... 85 00:05:29,329 --> 00:05:30,413 and there was no one there. 86 00:05:32,123 --> 00:05:36,169 Based on the transcripts of Lori's testimony, 87 00:05:36,294 --> 00:05:39,088 there are a number of strange occurrences 88 00:05:39,172 --> 00:05:41,507 that are happening in the house since they've moved in, 89 00:05:41,632 --> 00:05:44,844 and it's having an immediate effect on the people living 90 00:05:44,927 --> 00:05:47,347 in the house, specifically Lori's husband. 91 00:05:49,098 --> 00:05:51,893 I remember when my dad would get into his moods, 92 00:05:52,018 --> 00:05:56,939 his eyes would just go dark and blank, and it was scary. 93 00:05:57,023 --> 00:06:00,818 I started becoming aware pretty early on 94 00:06:00,902 --> 00:06:03,738 that there was something that wasn't right. 95 00:06:03,863 --> 00:06:05,281 We weren't allowed to close doors. 96 00:06:08,910 --> 00:06:09,952 He would start out by saying, 97 00:06:10,036 --> 00:06:12,372 "Oh, we had to take the door off to refinish it." 98 00:06:14,207 --> 00:06:17,168 But then the doors never went back on. 99 00:06:17,251 --> 00:06:19,253 My dad was very paranoid. 100 00:06:19,379 --> 00:06:22,006 He had some idea that we were doing 101 00:06:22,090 --> 00:06:23,716 something behind his back. 102 00:06:24,884 --> 00:06:26,552 He just had this obsession 103 00:06:26,636 --> 00:06:28,221 that if you were behind the door, 104 00:06:28,346 --> 00:06:29,597 he didn't know what you were doing. 105 00:06:29,722 --> 00:06:32,308 There was no sense, no sense to any of it. 106 00:06:39,649 --> 00:06:41,609 Frankly, I just hit a point I would have rather dealt 107 00:06:41,734 --> 00:06:44,570 with anything paranormal than with my husband. 108 00:06:47,573 --> 00:06:48,991 You pathetic woman. 109 00:06:54,872 --> 00:06:57,417 He had his moments being totally out of control, 110 00:06:57,500 --> 00:07:00,711 and the house would definitely become way more active. 111 00:07:03,965 --> 00:07:09,053 So his instability was just adding to the fire. 112 00:07:09,137 --> 00:07:10,513 There was definitely a correlation 113 00:07:10,596 --> 00:07:13,433 between how intense my dad's moods were 114 00:07:13,558 --> 00:07:16,352 and how intense the hauntings would become. 115 00:07:20,273 --> 00:07:23,484 When you have energy that's really negative, 116 00:07:23,609 --> 00:07:26,946 perhaps you're very angry, then you might find resonance 117 00:07:27,071 --> 00:07:29,323 with an angry spirit that might be there 118 00:07:29,449 --> 00:07:30,616 with that type of energy, 119 00:07:30,700 --> 00:07:32,952 so they can kind of coalesce together. 120 00:07:33,077 --> 00:07:35,121 There was always one area of the house 121 00:07:35,204 --> 00:07:38,791 that was more active, and it was on all three floors, 122 00:07:38,916 --> 00:07:41,794 it was that corner over there. 123 00:07:45,465 --> 00:07:46,632 I would hear noises... 124 00:07:48,718 --> 00:07:51,512 ...things bumping... banging. 125 00:07:51,637 --> 00:07:53,264 It was very unnerving to hear it, 126 00:07:53,347 --> 00:07:54,932 especially when you can't find a cause. 127 00:08:17,705 --> 00:08:21,292 That's when it became clear that this house, 128 00:08:21,375 --> 00:08:23,503 my dream house, was haunted. 129 00:08:37,850 --> 00:08:40,269 The first bedroom that my parents put me in 130 00:08:40,394 --> 00:08:42,313 when I was very little was the worst. 131 00:08:42,438 --> 00:08:43,606 It was very scary. 132 00:08:45,942 --> 00:08:48,528 This was my room when I was really little, 133 00:08:48,611 --> 00:08:51,948 where all of the really scary activity 134 00:08:52,031 --> 00:08:53,115 happened at the beginning. 135 00:08:54,617 --> 00:08:55,743 It was terrifying. 136 00:08:57,828 --> 00:08:59,914 I would hear footsteps moving around the bed. 137 00:09:01,791 --> 00:09:04,168 And just being so scared, I was just shaking, 138 00:09:04,293 --> 00:09:07,964 and I was too afraid to move, too afraid to blink or breathe. 139 00:09:22,478 --> 00:09:23,479 But there was nothing. 140 00:09:25,648 --> 00:09:26,857 I don't believe in telling a child, 141 00:09:26,983 --> 00:09:29,151 "You dreamt it" or whatever, 142 00:09:29,235 --> 00:09:32,530 but I did get a weird feeling, something's not right here. 143 00:09:39,954 --> 00:09:42,790 From my perspective, children, they've just come 144 00:09:42,873 --> 00:09:45,668 from the spirit realm and they're aging through. 145 00:09:45,751 --> 00:09:49,046 But because of that, they are so sensitive 146 00:09:49,171 --> 00:09:51,924 to the spirit realm that exists around them. 147 00:09:52,008 --> 00:09:53,676 I tend to believe that what children 148 00:09:53,801 --> 00:09:55,886 are experiencing is real. 149 00:10:05,021 --> 00:10:06,981 I needed to understand what was going on. 150 00:10:09,567 --> 00:10:13,029 So I decided to go to the town archives 151 00:10:13,154 --> 00:10:15,489 to see what we could find out. 152 00:10:15,573 --> 00:10:19,577 We went through the archives and found out that the house 153 00:10:19,702 --> 00:10:22,038 was built in approximately 1856. 154 00:10:23,956 --> 00:10:25,333 As we learned in the neighborhood, 155 00:10:25,416 --> 00:10:27,835 it seemed like every family in the area 156 00:10:27,918 --> 00:10:30,171 had some connection to our home. 157 00:10:30,254 --> 00:10:32,173 You know, and that they'd been there for funerals, 158 00:10:32,256 --> 00:10:33,924 they'd been there for weddings. 159 00:10:35,051 --> 00:10:38,804 When you have events that are really emotionally charged, 160 00:10:38,888 --> 00:10:41,265 that can imprint on a space. 161 00:10:41,390 --> 00:10:43,392 For example, if you have a wedding somewhere 162 00:10:43,517 --> 00:10:45,645 and you're a spirit, that might be a place 163 00:10:45,728 --> 00:10:48,898 that you wanna go and revisit. It's a special place for you. 164 00:10:48,981 --> 00:10:53,235 Likewise, if a funeral happened there, you might have grief 165 00:10:53,319 --> 00:10:56,322 that's really associated in that space for a spirit 166 00:10:56,405 --> 00:10:58,449 who also might be going back there 167 00:10:58,574 --> 00:10:59,992 for those familiar memories. 168 00:11:00,076 --> 00:11:03,704 My question around that then is, well, who is that? 169 00:11:03,788 --> 00:11:06,624 Who is tied to this space specifically? 170 00:11:16,217 --> 00:11:18,761 I heard a noise upstairs, and then I heard a voice. 171 00:11:53,295 --> 00:11:55,798 It was right up there, the top of the stairs. 172 00:11:55,923 --> 00:11:56,924 That's where I saw her. 173 00:11:58,676 --> 00:12:00,845 She made it very clear she didn't want me to come up. 174 00:12:05,307 --> 00:12:07,685 It's such a surreal feeling 175 00:12:07,810 --> 00:12:09,270 when you see something like this. 176 00:12:09,353 --> 00:12:12,356 Don't come up. 177 00:12:12,481 --> 00:12:14,483 Everything just goes on hold. 178 00:12:17,445 --> 00:12:21,323 The message that I heard in my head was, "Don't come up." 179 00:12:21,407 --> 00:12:23,993 It was like she was territorial. 180 00:12:24,118 --> 00:12:25,619 Angry, but almost threatening. 181 00:12:43,262 --> 00:12:46,390 She wanted me to know, "I'm here." 182 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:53,689 I got angry. 183 00:12:53,814 --> 00:12:56,567 It's like, "No way. Like, this is my child. 184 00:12:56,692 --> 00:13:00,571 This is my daughter. You don't tell me to stay away." 185 00:13:09,121 --> 00:13:10,956 And I just stormed right up and went through 186 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,541 where she'd been standing, and, you know, 187 00:13:12,666 --> 00:13:15,085 that mama bear thing comes out, right? 188 00:13:17,630 --> 00:13:19,381 As a child, it could be very scary 189 00:13:19,507 --> 00:13:22,301 to have this entity around. 190 00:13:22,384 --> 00:13:25,596 You never really knew when she was gonna pop up, 191 00:13:25,721 --> 00:13:28,224 and it felt like she was always here. 192 00:13:28,349 --> 00:13:29,975 She was always part of the fabric of the house. 193 00:13:34,104 --> 00:13:38,692 Lori mentions that she was speaking with her neighbor, 194 00:13:38,776 --> 00:13:42,154 and they came across a photograph where there was 195 00:13:42,238 --> 00:13:45,115 a woman in the photograph that Lori recognized. 196 00:13:45,241 --> 00:13:49,286 It was the woman that she had been encountering in her home. 197 00:13:49,411 --> 00:13:52,081 I was able to identify who she was, 198 00:13:52,164 --> 00:13:55,376 the past owner of my house. 199 00:13:58,212 --> 00:14:00,422 It was her ghost that I saw at the top of the stairs. 200 00:14:06,262 --> 00:14:08,973 This is really crucial because the past owner 201 00:14:09,098 --> 00:14:11,267 might be inhabiting the house still 202 00:14:11,392 --> 00:14:12,726 as if she's living in the home. 203 00:14:12,810 --> 00:14:15,980 So when you get people who move into your space, 204 00:14:16,105 --> 00:14:18,023 it can feel very intrusive. 205 00:14:18,107 --> 00:14:20,442 You can feel like, "OK, who are these strangers 206 00:14:20,526 --> 00:14:22,528 in my home? I need to get them out." 207 00:14:23,988 --> 00:14:26,156 My mom did her best to reassure me that she wasn't 208 00:14:26,282 --> 00:14:29,201 there to hurt me and she wasn't gonna cause me any harm, 209 00:14:29,285 --> 00:14:31,453 but that my mom would do what she needed to do 210 00:14:31,537 --> 00:14:34,331 to make sure that she would take care of it. 211 00:14:34,456 --> 00:14:38,168 I knew I had to get rid of the spirit once and for all. 212 00:14:38,294 --> 00:14:42,256 I did my research and I came across an ancient method. 213 00:14:42,339 --> 00:14:45,843 I visualized her going up and taken to where she needed 214 00:14:45,968 --> 00:14:47,386 to go to do her healing. 215 00:15:06,322 --> 00:15:08,157 The crossing was successful, 216 00:15:08,282 --> 00:15:11,535 and... I believe that she found peace 217 00:15:11,619 --> 00:15:15,205 and we found peace as well... for a while. 218 00:15:18,876 --> 00:15:21,670 I'm so relieved that it worked out for Lori, 219 00:15:21,795 --> 00:15:25,424 that the ceremony helped them be rid of the spirit. 220 00:15:25,507 --> 00:15:27,509 There's a sense of harmony in the space, 221 00:15:27,635 --> 00:15:29,136 spiritually that is. 222 00:15:29,219 --> 00:15:32,890 Now I think it's time for Lori to reconsider 223 00:15:32,973 --> 00:15:36,185 the abuse that's coming from her husband. 224 00:15:36,310 --> 00:15:38,103 I would try to talk to him calmly about 225 00:15:38,187 --> 00:15:41,941 how neither of us was happy and we needed 226 00:15:42,024 --> 00:15:45,110 to start working on our lives separately. 227 00:15:48,697 --> 00:15:53,577 I remember he would just grab armloads of our things, 228 00:15:53,661 --> 00:15:55,996 and just take them outside and set them on fire. 229 00:15:59,083 --> 00:16:00,125 Fire was his thing. 230 00:16:02,503 --> 00:16:04,880 I always kind of figured that's the way 231 00:16:05,005 --> 00:16:06,215 we would both go out, 232 00:16:06,340 --> 00:16:07,591 that we would both go out in fire. 233 00:16:11,470 --> 00:16:12,513 It was definitely hell, 234 00:16:12,596 --> 00:16:15,015 and my health was going down-- downhill. 235 00:16:17,351 --> 00:16:20,771 One day when he was at work, we took the dogs and we left. 236 00:16:20,854 --> 00:16:22,481 It ended up being part of the agreement 237 00:16:22,564 --> 00:16:24,066 that my mom would get this house. 238 00:16:24,191 --> 00:16:26,694 And so a few months after we had left, 239 00:16:26,819 --> 00:16:28,404 my dad agreed to move out 240 00:16:28,529 --> 00:16:30,781 so that my mom and I could move back in. 241 00:16:33,826 --> 00:16:36,036 We lived a relatively quiet life. 242 00:16:37,830 --> 00:16:42,876 Until I got... an email one day saying that 243 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:47,047 Freddy was in the hospital and not expected to live. 244 00:16:47,172 --> 00:16:49,008 Did we want to say our goodbyes? 245 00:16:52,386 --> 00:16:53,679 We both went down that night, 246 00:16:53,762 --> 00:16:55,514 but it was absolutely terrifying. 247 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,934 We couldn't get over the feeling that, 248 00:16:59,059 --> 00:17:01,270 like a monster, he was gonna open his eyes 249 00:17:01,395 --> 00:17:02,938 and jump out of the bed. 250 00:17:04,481 --> 00:17:06,442 But we said our goodbyes and said, 251 00:17:06,567 --> 00:17:09,028 "We're sending you off with no hate. 252 00:17:09,111 --> 00:17:11,655 "You have to go and deal with your demons. 253 00:17:11,739 --> 00:17:13,657 Go in love and light." 254 00:17:13,741 --> 00:17:14,908 It was about a week later, 255 00:17:14,992 --> 00:17:17,036 they'd taken him off life support. 256 00:17:26,462 --> 00:17:30,841 This is where this complex case of Lori Kinrade's 257 00:17:30,924 --> 00:17:32,426 takes a terrifying turn. 258 00:17:32,551 --> 00:17:38,849 It's gonna take longer than we thought. 259 00:18:04,083 --> 00:18:07,419 It was the angry stomping, it was that energy 260 00:18:07,503 --> 00:18:09,546 and that feeling like somebody wants to get 261 00:18:09,630 --> 00:18:11,340 right in your face. 262 00:18:11,465 --> 00:18:13,884 It was familiar to the way he would be stomping around 263 00:18:13,967 --> 00:18:15,552 when he was getting ready to trash the place. 264 00:18:17,596 --> 00:18:18,972 That's when I realized that 265 00:18:19,056 --> 00:18:21,850 what was haunting us now was Freddy, 266 00:18:21,975 --> 00:18:23,811 and he was back with a vengeance. 267 00:18:26,939 --> 00:18:30,109 To be targeted by my late, abusive husband 268 00:18:30,192 --> 00:18:33,112 was a whole different-- whole different level of terror. 269 00:18:37,491 --> 00:18:41,161 Lori's late husband, Freddy, is probably enraged 270 00:18:41,286 --> 00:18:45,749 that Lori and her daughter escaped from him in life. 271 00:18:45,833 --> 00:18:49,670 And now, in the afterlife, he is quite probably 272 00:18:49,795 --> 00:18:52,589 trying to seek revenge for what they had done. 273 00:18:58,387 --> 00:19:01,014 He really blamed me 274 00:19:01,140 --> 00:19:04,685 for, his words, "Breaking up the family." 275 00:19:04,810 --> 00:19:08,480 He did... tell me that he would kill me. 276 00:19:14,695 --> 00:19:17,030 In a lot of ways, this makes sense, 277 00:19:17,114 --> 00:19:18,991 that even in death, he couldn't let go. 278 00:19:21,535 --> 00:19:23,996 I was upstairs one night, and I was just, 279 00:19:24,079 --> 00:19:26,165 I sort of got into a purge mode. 280 00:20:05,662 --> 00:20:07,122 That was terrifying. 281 00:20:07,247 --> 00:20:08,916 This is really dangerous at this point. 282 00:20:08,999 --> 00:20:11,168 The fact that you have pieces of furniture 283 00:20:11,251 --> 00:20:13,086 that are being flung in the air 284 00:20:13,212 --> 00:20:14,796 says that this is really physical, 285 00:20:14,922 --> 00:20:16,924 that this spirit is really powerful 286 00:20:17,049 --> 00:20:19,718 and is perhaps, you know, very aggressively 287 00:20:19,801 --> 00:20:21,678 trying to provoke or inflict pain. 288 00:20:21,762 --> 00:20:23,430 There was nothing else or no one else 289 00:20:23,513 --> 00:20:25,432 that was capable of doing that kind of violence, 290 00:20:25,557 --> 00:20:27,184 and it was too similar to what he did 291 00:20:27,267 --> 00:20:28,268 when he was living. 292 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,278 After my dad died I brought the ashes 293 00:20:38,362 --> 00:20:39,571 back to this house. 294 00:20:39,655 --> 00:20:41,198 There was really nowhere else to keep them, 295 00:20:41,281 --> 00:20:42,866 so we kept them here. 296 00:20:42,950 --> 00:20:46,954 But my mom and I had always felt uncomfortable 297 00:20:47,037 --> 00:20:49,331 around the ashes. It always felt a little uneasy. 298 00:20:51,959 --> 00:20:54,419 The activity in the house had gotten so out of hand, 299 00:20:54,503 --> 00:20:56,713 and things were happening more and more often around there, 300 00:20:56,797 --> 00:20:58,423 and she was getting more and more concerned. 301 00:20:59,758 --> 00:21:02,010 So she messaged me and said, "We need to get these ashes 302 00:21:02,135 --> 00:21:03,804 out of here right now." 303 00:21:14,982 --> 00:21:16,275 I just felt the negative energy. 304 00:21:16,358 --> 00:21:17,359 I had to get rid of it. 305 00:21:21,488 --> 00:21:25,867 Found a spot in Lake Huron and I said another goodbye 306 00:21:25,993 --> 00:21:27,577 to him and released him. 307 00:21:30,998 --> 00:21:33,750 I believe what Lori and Bri-Anne did 308 00:21:33,834 --> 00:21:35,335 was a way of getting closure. 309 00:21:35,419 --> 00:21:38,380 By putting those ashes into the lake, 310 00:21:38,505 --> 00:21:40,799 they're essentially saying to the spirit world, 311 00:21:40,882 --> 00:21:43,927 to Freddy himself, that you have no power here, 312 00:21:44,011 --> 00:21:45,846 you're not a part of this home. 313 00:21:45,971 --> 00:21:48,640 They're essentially breaking spiritual bonds 314 00:21:48,724 --> 00:21:51,476 between the spirit realm, between Freddy, 315 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,520 and the presence of him in their lives. 316 00:22:01,194 --> 00:22:04,656 I can't really explain the revenge other than the fact 317 00:22:04,740 --> 00:22:05,907 that I was still living. 318 00:22:07,117 --> 00:22:09,369 He was still angry because I did leave. 319 00:22:09,494 --> 00:22:12,205 I got away from him. We both did. 320 00:22:12,331 --> 00:22:15,542 This is my first time to ever talk about this. 321 00:22:15,667 --> 00:22:18,337 Nobody in my family ever knew any of this was going on. 322 00:22:21,506 --> 00:22:25,260 His life was all about secrets, never telling, 323 00:22:25,385 --> 00:22:27,679 never letting anybody see, never letting anybody in. 324 00:22:29,723 --> 00:22:31,892 I'm letting it be known. 325 00:22:31,975 --> 00:22:33,769 There's no more secrets anymore. 326 00:22:33,894 --> 00:22:35,729 We escaped. 327 00:22:35,854 --> 00:22:37,022 The long and the short of it, right? 328 00:22:37,105 --> 00:22:38,482 We-- we escaped. 329 00:23:07,677 --> 00:23:09,346 When I was 12, 330 00:23:09,429 --> 00:23:10,806 my family moved to a brand-new house 331 00:23:10,931 --> 00:23:13,975 in the Menifee area, just south of LA. 332 00:23:16,144 --> 00:23:18,688 At the time, it was a new development. 333 00:23:18,772 --> 00:23:19,981 It wasn't even a city yet. 334 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:22,818 It was kind of in the middle of nowhere. 335 00:23:25,821 --> 00:23:27,280 But I was happy, 336 00:23:28,448 --> 00:23:30,784 'cause I liked the peace and quiet. 337 00:23:30,867 --> 00:23:32,285 And it was easy to make new friends. 338 00:23:34,413 --> 00:23:36,748 One day, all that peace just went away. 339 00:23:47,092 --> 00:23:49,302 My father, he worked as a police officer. 340 00:23:52,806 --> 00:23:54,933 His job put him in conflict with the most dangerous 341 00:23:55,016 --> 00:23:56,685 criminals in the country. 342 00:24:02,649 --> 00:24:04,651 My dad felt like because of his line of work, 343 00:24:04,734 --> 00:24:07,070 it was not safe for us as a family to be out in public. 344 00:24:09,489 --> 00:24:11,992 So what any other family could normally do, 345 00:24:12,117 --> 00:24:14,119 just sit down at a regular fast-food restaurant, 346 00:24:14,202 --> 00:24:16,079 we had to drive out of our town to do that. 347 00:24:17,706 --> 00:24:20,959 And you think a normal childhood is having to sit down 348 00:24:21,042 --> 00:24:23,044 at a fast-food restaurant 20 minutes away from home. 349 00:24:23,170 --> 00:24:25,881 And you think that's normal. And you find out why. 350 00:24:26,006 --> 00:24:28,008 You find out that there's bad people 351 00:24:28,133 --> 00:24:29,718 hiding in places like this. 352 00:24:32,387 --> 00:24:33,680 My dad was a target because of his job. 353 00:24:45,525 --> 00:24:46,943 He never told us anything, 354 00:24:47,027 --> 00:24:48,570 he wanted to keep that out of the house. 355 00:24:50,822 --> 00:24:52,282 He wanted to make sure we were safe. 356 00:24:55,452 --> 00:24:57,245 But, you know, you're kids, you're curious. 357 00:24:58,788 --> 00:25:00,540 You wanna know what he does. 358 00:25:05,337 --> 00:25:07,214 I wish I wasn't so curious. 359 00:25:14,221 --> 00:25:16,014 Richard, take one-- mark. 360 00:25:16,097 --> 00:25:18,099 At first glance, Clyde Morrison's case 361 00:25:18,225 --> 00:25:20,727 didn't look like a particularly compelling case, 362 00:25:20,852 --> 00:25:22,729 and then I began to delve a little bit deeper 363 00:25:22,854 --> 00:25:24,814 and found that there was more to this than met the eye. 364 00:25:29,486 --> 00:25:31,655 I have seen many cases, 365 00:25:31,738 --> 00:25:33,990 and this is not your average haunting. 366 00:25:37,577 --> 00:25:39,079 One night, my parents were away, 367 00:25:39,204 --> 00:25:41,164 and I was playing a game with my younger brother. 368 00:25:43,583 --> 00:25:44,626 We're not normally alone. 369 00:25:45,752 --> 00:25:48,255 My family had to go do a family emergency 370 00:25:48,338 --> 00:25:49,589 out of the state. 371 00:25:49,673 --> 00:25:50,632 We're gonna take advantage of that 372 00:25:50,757 --> 00:25:52,384 and play games all night, 373 00:25:52,467 --> 00:25:54,511 eat all the food we weren't supposed to be eating, 374 00:25:54,594 --> 00:25:56,888 all the things that they told us not to do. 375 00:25:56,972 --> 00:25:59,474 Eight-- OK. 376 00:26:06,231 --> 00:26:07,399 It sounded like an adult. 377 00:26:08,525 --> 00:26:10,110 A man. 378 00:26:10,235 --> 00:26:11,987 I didn't know what he said, I didn't hear the word, 379 00:26:12,112 --> 00:26:13,405 but it scared me. 380 00:26:28,712 --> 00:26:31,089 It sounded like someone trying to scare us. 381 00:26:32,215 --> 00:26:34,676 Someone shouting like, "Hey," 382 00:26:34,801 --> 00:26:37,429 something to get your attention, and it did. 383 00:26:37,512 --> 00:26:38,847 It got all of our attention. 384 00:26:40,807 --> 00:26:43,518 Clyde and his brother are quite young at this point. 385 00:26:43,643 --> 00:26:45,687 And so there could be all sorts of things-- 386 00:26:45,812 --> 00:26:47,355 and you're home alone as a kid, 387 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,733 you know, every little bump, every little sound 388 00:26:49,816 --> 00:26:52,444 can be scary and can be emphasized. 389 00:26:52,527 --> 00:26:54,863 We tend to read into a lot of things when we're children. 390 00:27:02,746 --> 00:27:04,956 I literally thought someone had broken in. 391 00:27:06,750 --> 00:27:09,127 I knew I was in danger right then and there. 392 00:27:10,837 --> 00:27:13,423 The only people in that house was myself, 393 00:27:13,506 --> 00:27:15,342 my younger brother Malcolm. 394 00:27:16,843 --> 00:27:17,844 That was it. 395 00:27:26,895 --> 00:27:28,772 When doing a paranormal investigation, 396 00:27:28,855 --> 00:27:30,690 you have to begin by looking at the facts 397 00:27:30,815 --> 00:27:33,401 and ruling out the real life things 398 00:27:33,526 --> 00:27:35,737 that are surrounding an occurrence. 399 00:27:35,862 --> 00:27:37,739 He lives in a neighborhood where there is a lot 400 00:27:37,864 --> 00:27:40,450 of crime that's happening, so there is a lot 401 00:27:40,533 --> 00:27:43,703 of circumstance that could come into play here. 402 00:27:45,246 --> 00:27:47,874 Clyde's dad works for the gang unit. 403 00:27:47,957 --> 00:27:50,001 He deals with some very bad individuals. 404 00:27:50,085 --> 00:27:52,587 He arrests them, he puts them in prison. 405 00:27:52,712 --> 00:27:54,297 So we have to look at the possibility 406 00:27:54,381 --> 00:27:57,133 that we are dealing with a violent, vindictive, 407 00:27:57,217 --> 00:28:00,804 flesh and blood, possibly homicidal individual 408 00:28:00,887 --> 00:28:03,598 who wants to hurt a cop and his kids. 409 00:28:08,228 --> 00:28:10,980 When I looked, I saw nothing. 410 00:28:11,064 --> 00:28:12,649 I just felt something. 411 00:28:15,944 --> 00:28:17,237 There's no one there. 412 00:28:18,363 --> 00:28:21,324 One, two three... 413 00:28:21,408 --> 00:28:23,576 I was terrified that somebody was there, 414 00:28:23,702 --> 00:28:25,412 and I knew I wasn't gonna be able to protect myself. 415 00:28:34,587 --> 00:28:38,258 It sounded like someone slammed it shut as if they were upset. 416 00:28:42,595 --> 00:28:44,556 Clyde's account has taken a turn 417 00:28:44,639 --> 00:28:46,599 from kids getting spooked all the way 418 00:28:46,725 --> 00:28:51,020 to something physical like big, heavy indoor shutters slamming. 419 00:28:51,104 --> 00:28:52,772 Shutter slammed. 420 00:28:52,897 --> 00:28:54,524 We stopped immediately what we were doing, 421 00:28:54,607 --> 00:28:56,234 wondering what the hell just happened, 422 00:28:56,317 --> 00:28:59,237 since no one was even next to it. 423 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,739 It takes a great deal of physical force 424 00:29:00,822 --> 00:29:02,615 to slam shutters. 425 00:29:02,741 --> 00:29:05,869 It takes a lot of energy to make that happen. 426 00:29:05,952 --> 00:29:09,456 Is this something paranormal that is trying to intimidate, 427 00:29:09,539 --> 00:29:11,750 trying to scare these two children, 428 00:29:11,833 --> 00:29:13,752 who it knows are home alone? 429 00:29:15,837 --> 00:29:17,297 I ran outside to get our neighbor. 430 00:29:19,966 --> 00:29:21,676 We were left in the care of our next-door neighbor, 431 00:29:21,801 --> 00:29:23,762 to watch out for us. 432 00:29:25,930 --> 00:29:27,640 We were praying, "Please just be home." 433 00:29:33,396 --> 00:29:35,732 Menifee, because it is a new city, 434 00:29:35,815 --> 00:29:38,485 it was right smack in the middle 435 00:29:38,610 --> 00:29:41,488 of some pretty known dangerous cities. 436 00:29:44,199 --> 00:29:47,535 Bad people started going in our neighborhoods 437 00:29:47,660 --> 00:29:49,913 and breaking into vehicles, 438 00:29:49,996 --> 00:29:53,082 breaking into homes, and stealing. 439 00:29:53,166 --> 00:29:57,337 And a lot of people felt unsafe and unsure 440 00:29:57,420 --> 00:29:59,088 if it's gonna keep happening. 441 00:30:01,883 --> 00:30:04,260 There's a valid concern that one of the people 442 00:30:04,344 --> 00:30:07,889 that Clyde's father has arrested or one of their family members 443 00:30:08,014 --> 00:30:10,517 has found out where they live and has targeted him. 444 00:30:10,642 --> 00:30:12,644 As soon as we told our neighbor that somebody's in our house, 445 00:30:12,727 --> 00:30:15,438 he didn't question us. He merely told us to stay put. 446 00:30:15,522 --> 00:30:17,273 He went back into his house to grab his shotgun, 447 00:30:17,357 --> 00:30:19,359 and he went to our house. 448 00:30:22,862 --> 00:30:24,781 He had searched upstairs and downstairs, 449 00:30:24,864 --> 00:30:26,741 and even in the backyard, and even in the garage. 450 00:30:28,201 --> 00:30:30,495 And he let us know that there was nobody in our house 451 00:30:30,578 --> 00:30:31,871 and that maybe we were just tired 452 00:30:31,955 --> 00:30:33,248 and probably just hearing things. 453 00:30:35,375 --> 00:30:37,877 We knew we heard somebody. 454 00:30:40,713 --> 00:30:42,924 It's possible that Clyde and his brother have been 455 00:30:43,049 --> 00:30:45,885 the victims of a break-in, but nothing was taken, 456 00:30:45,969 --> 00:30:49,138 nobody was harmed, no intruder was seen, 457 00:30:49,222 --> 00:30:51,766 and they left the house without leaving 458 00:30:51,891 --> 00:30:54,894 any sign of having been there at all. 459 00:30:55,019 --> 00:30:56,437 That leads me to believe 460 00:30:56,563 --> 00:30:58,982 that this is not a living person at all. 461 00:30:59,065 --> 00:31:00,900 We're dealing with something paranormal. 462 00:31:10,368 --> 00:31:12,328 So after the days go by and I realize, 463 00:31:12,453 --> 00:31:16,916 "OK, the house is fine, there's nobody here, I'm safe again." 464 00:31:30,305 --> 00:31:33,057 It sounded like heavy footsteps 465 00:31:33,182 --> 00:31:35,310 on the shingles above where I slept. 466 00:31:43,902 --> 00:31:46,070 It was somebody on the roof walking around, 467 00:31:47,322 --> 00:31:48,865 and I froze. 468 00:31:51,075 --> 00:31:53,077 My dad was not even home yet. 469 00:31:57,457 --> 00:32:00,877 To hear a loud footstep above where I slept, 470 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:02,921 it terrified me. 471 00:32:09,052 --> 00:32:10,929 My dad came home. 472 00:32:11,054 --> 00:32:16,643 Immediately, a wall of this sour smell hit. 473 00:32:16,726 --> 00:32:20,146 It was just this disgusting, strong odor 474 00:32:20,229 --> 00:32:21,773 that came off of my dad. 475 00:32:23,149 --> 00:32:25,068 He had to come back from the morgue. 476 00:32:26,235 --> 00:32:27,403 He didn't look at us in the eyes. 477 00:32:27,528 --> 00:32:29,280 He kind of looked down. 478 00:32:29,405 --> 00:32:31,616 And we didn't know what was going on. 479 00:32:33,076 --> 00:32:35,620 The stuff that he had to have seen at his job 480 00:32:35,745 --> 00:32:37,580 should never have happened. 481 00:32:38,748 --> 00:32:41,334 He's seen women getting hurt, kids getting hurt. 482 00:32:43,419 --> 00:32:46,047 He's seen countless gang members killing each other. 483 00:32:48,925 --> 00:32:51,260 He tried to make it a habit when he would come home, 484 00:32:51,344 --> 00:32:53,262 have a smile on his face to show us 485 00:32:53,346 --> 00:32:55,098 that the day didn't affect him. 486 00:32:55,223 --> 00:32:57,183 But we could tell that he had a rough day at work. 487 00:32:59,102 --> 00:33:03,439 The fact that Clyde's father works in such a high-stress, 488 00:33:03,523 --> 00:33:07,318 high-traumatic profession that carries a lot 489 00:33:07,443 --> 00:33:10,571 of emotional baggage would have a profound effect 490 00:33:10,655 --> 00:33:14,534 on not only Clyde's father, but the whole entire family. 491 00:33:14,617 --> 00:33:17,745 Could it be the stresses and strains that Clyde's father 492 00:33:17,829 --> 00:33:19,831 is dealing with as a police officer-- 493 00:33:19,956 --> 00:33:22,500 could the emotions, the negative feelings 494 00:33:22,625 --> 00:33:24,627 that he experiences because of that 495 00:33:24,711 --> 00:33:27,964 be drawing something in, something that wants to feed 496 00:33:28,047 --> 00:33:29,799 on those negative emotions? 497 00:33:35,805 --> 00:33:37,640 I told my mom about the footsteps. 498 00:33:39,684 --> 00:33:41,978 She thought I was being dramatic. 499 00:33:43,438 --> 00:33:45,565 She told me that I need to stop watching scary movies, 500 00:33:47,233 --> 00:33:50,945 that I was just scaring myself and there was nothing going on. 501 00:33:53,656 --> 00:33:55,324 And I told her, well, I didn't feel safe. 502 00:33:57,326 --> 00:33:58,911 Stop! 503 00:34:11,382 --> 00:34:13,092 But as matters escalate, 504 00:34:13,176 --> 00:34:15,261 they follow less real-world logic, 505 00:34:15,344 --> 00:34:17,555 and it becomes apparent that Clyde's dealing 506 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,515 with something much more frightening. 507 00:34:20,725 --> 00:34:22,685 Children are very close and vulnerable 508 00:34:22,810 --> 00:34:24,771 to the spirit realm that's around them. 509 00:34:24,854 --> 00:34:27,356 And so the fact that Clyde is feeling this, 510 00:34:27,482 --> 00:34:30,860 he's feeling a presence in his room, in his spaces, 511 00:34:30,985 --> 00:34:33,362 that we need to trust what he's saying. 512 00:34:35,364 --> 00:34:36,699 Before we moved into this house, 513 00:34:36,824 --> 00:34:39,077 we got lucky enough to be able to watch it being made. 514 00:34:39,202 --> 00:34:41,788 And we were taken there countless times 515 00:34:41,871 --> 00:34:44,874 from when it was just piles of dirt everywhere. 516 00:34:44,957 --> 00:34:46,542 And my mother, she told us 517 00:34:46,626 --> 00:34:50,213 that the whole area was a burial ground. 518 00:34:50,338 --> 00:34:51,547 Our whole street. 519 00:34:54,717 --> 00:34:58,054 According to Clyde's mother, their subdivision is actually 520 00:34:58,179 --> 00:35:01,349 right on top of sacred indigenous burial grounds, 521 00:35:01,432 --> 00:35:02,809 which is huge. 522 00:35:02,892 --> 00:35:05,937 Clyde brings up a very interesting possibility. 523 00:35:06,062 --> 00:35:09,982 Moreno Valley has been inhabited for thousands of years 524 00:35:10,066 --> 00:35:11,150 by the Pechanga people. 525 00:35:11,234 --> 00:35:12,819 It's very important for people to understand 526 00:35:12,902 --> 00:35:16,989 that indigenous burial grounds are sacred. 527 00:35:17,073 --> 00:35:18,950 They're like any other cemetery 528 00:35:19,075 --> 00:35:21,160 where people are laying to rest. 529 00:35:21,244 --> 00:35:25,581 Can you imagine building a home on somebody's family's remains? 530 00:35:25,706 --> 00:35:26,916 Absolutely not. 531 00:35:27,041 --> 00:35:30,753 So I can imagine that if-- if their home is on top 532 00:35:30,837 --> 00:35:33,506 of a burial ground, that those spirits could 533 00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:37,760 potentially be feeling disrespected and could be angry. 534 00:36:04,579 --> 00:36:07,748 I couldn't shake the thought that somebody was just waiting. 535 00:36:26,225 --> 00:36:28,519 I started thinking maybe it had something to do 536 00:36:28,603 --> 00:36:31,189 with the burial ground where my house was built. 537 00:36:32,857 --> 00:36:34,066 That alone terrified me. 538 00:36:34,150 --> 00:36:37,486 I imagined tons of spirits everywhere, outside, 539 00:36:37,570 --> 00:36:39,530 inside the house, 540 00:36:39,614 --> 00:36:41,240 and I was afraid. 541 00:36:41,324 --> 00:36:43,951 If it was an indigenous burial ground, 542 00:36:44,076 --> 00:36:46,245 you would think that these spirits 543 00:36:46,370 --> 00:36:49,665 would potentially be bothering the whole family, 544 00:36:49,749 --> 00:36:51,709 but it specifically targeted Clyde. 545 00:36:51,792 --> 00:36:53,085 So this leads me to believe 546 00:36:53,211 --> 00:36:55,588 that it is something a little more personal. 547 00:37:01,928 --> 00:37:04,263 I started feeling like somebody was staring at me. 548 00:37:06,349 --> 00:37:08,226 The hair on my entire body stood up. 549 00:37:14,273 --> 00:37:15,524 And I was scared out of my mind. 550 00:37:24,951 --> 00:37:27,495 It felt like it wanted to harm me, 551 00:37:27,620 --> 00:37:29,747 and it was going to do whatever it could to do that. 552 00:37:40,466 --> 00:37:41,592 I'm laying down in bed. 553 00:37:44,345 --> 00:37:45,471 In the corner, 554 00:37:45,596 --> 00:37:47,348 it was-- something was just standing there. 555 00:37:47,473 --> 00:37:49,350 I can only see the silhouette of it, 556 00:37:49,475 --> 00:37:51,519 but I can just feel it, it was just staring at me. 557 00:37:56,107 --> 00:37:57,984 And it terrified the hell out of me. 558 00:38:15,376 --> 00:38:17,336 I mean, there's being scared, 559 00:38:17,461 --> 00:38:18,546 and then there's the next level up 560 00:38:18,671 --> 00:38:20,172 where you're just shaking with fear. 561 00:38:21,799 --> 00:38:22,800 It came back... 562 00:38:24,385 --> 00:38:26,679 over and over again. 563 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:37,690 What is this? 564 00:38:39,525 --> 00:38:41,110 Where did it come from? 565 00:38:43,696 --> 00:38:45,031 What the hell does it want? 566 00:39:01,881 --> 00:39:04,300 The strange phenomena that's plaguing Clyde 567 00:39:04,383 --> 00:39:07,345 started on the periphery, but as he goes 568 00:39:07,428 --> 00:39:09,680 through these experiences night after night, 569 00:39:09,764 --> 00:39:15,019 it is closing in on him like a hunter closes in on its prey. 570 00:39:19,482 --> 00:39:21,567 I would always try and see what its face looked like. 571 00:39:24,904 --> 00:39:26,655 And it made sure it had nothing for me 572 00:39:26,739 --> 00:39:29,241 to be able to describe it to, to anyone. 573 00:39:38,667 --> 00:39:41,170 When an apparition manifests visually, 574 00:39:41,253 --> 00:39:44,382 its appearance can sometimes tell us about the way 575 00:39:44,465 --> 00:39:47,426 in which it died or some key piece of information 576 00:39:47,551 --> 00:39:49,261 about the haunting itself. 577 00:39:52,932 --> 00:39:54,975 Once I realized I couldn't see his face, 578 00:39:56,602 --> 00:39:58,771 I remember thinking back on the camera. 579 00:40:03,275 --> 00:40:06,070 My dad had a camera to document certain things 580 00:40:06,153 --> 00:40:07,822 that he was gonna testify in court. 581 00:40:09,532 --> 00:40:12,201 And I got curious one day. 582 00:40:16,789 --> 00:40:19,750 I hit this library button on the camera 583 00:40:19,834 --> 00:40:22,628 to see the last picture that was taken on the camera. 584 00:40:24,505 --> 00:40:26,132 And it was just horrible. 585 00:40:30,803 --> 00:40:33,305 This person had killed himself... 586 00:40:34,890 --> 00:40:35,891 with a shotgun. 587 00:40:37,685 --> 00:40:40,646 I immediately connected the dots. 588 00:40:43,524 --> 00:40:45,651 My dad was going to arrest this person. 589 00:40:45,734 --> 00:40:48,195 And I believe he blamed my father 590 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,655 for having to kill himself. 591 00:40:50,865 --> 00:40:53,159 So now, he was looking for revenge. 592 00:40:58,372 --> 00:41:00,916 We gathered the data, we've analyzed the evidence, 593 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,752 and one conclusion stands out from all the others-- 594 00:41:03,836 --> 00:41:07,214 that this victim felt that he was cornered. 595 00:41:07,339 --> 00:41:10,092 Being arrested by Clyde's father pushed him into taking 596 00:41:10,176 --> 00:41:13,012 his own life. He lost his entire world. 597 00:41:13,095 --> 00:41:16,932 And now, I think he wants to inflict some degree of loss 598 00:41:17,016 --> 00:41:18,100 on Clyde's father. 599 00:41:18,184 --> 00:41:20,728 He's not targeting the police officer himself. 600 00:41:20,853 --> 00:41:21,854 He's targeting the thing 601 00:41:21,979 --> 00:41:24,356 that he cares for most in all the world, his son. 602 00:41:27,985 --> 00:41:30,696 This thing haunted me from the time I was 13 603 00:41:30,821 --> 00:41:32,281 until I was 18. 604 00:41:35,868 --> 00:41:37,244 And that's when I moved out of the house. 605 00:41:39,246 --> 00:41:40,539 And I never saw it again. 606 00:41:43,334 --> 00:41:45,419 Till this day, I am still afraid of the dark. 607 00:41:46,587 --> 00:41:49,798 I've learned that there's a lot more to life 608 00:41:51,217 --> 00:41:53,302 and there's a lot more to death that we don't understand. 609 00:41:54,428 --> 00:41:56,555 Just because they were bad when they were alive 610 00:41:56,639 --> 00:41:59,683 doesn't mean they'll be good when they're dead. 611 00:41:59,767 --> 00:42:00,935 Sometimes they stay bad.